In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, legendary graphic designer Massimo Vignelli, best-known for creating the iconic New York City subway map, discusses intellectual elegance, education, love, the pitfalls of marketing, and his long career in design.

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Massimo Vignelli

DESIGNER

2010

BLACK / GRAPHIC DESIGN / HELVETICA / LEGEND / MICHAEL BIERUT / TYPOGRAPHY

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both.  — Debbie Millman