To ring in 15 years of Design Matters, Roxane Gay flips the script on Debbie Millman. (Photo: Taryn Miller Stevens)

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Design Matters Live: Roxane Gay Interviews Debbie Millman

PODCAST HOST / DESIGNER / AUTHOR

2020

DESIGN MATTERS / DEBBIE MILLMAN / ROXANE GAY / PODCASTING

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both.  — Debbie Millman